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	<title>Comments on: Moving to the city</title>
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	<description>Living the good life in Japan</description>
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		<title>By: w00kie</title>
		<link>http://w00kie.com/2009/05/28/moving-to-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-31165</link>
		<dc:creator>w00kie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, I&#039;ve negotiated my move for a relatively cheap ￥50.000 (on a sunday lat afternoon) with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the0123.com/&quot;&gt;アート引越し&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, I&#8217;ve negotiated my move for a relatively cheap ￥50.000 (on a sunday lat afternoon) with <a href="http://www.the0123.com/">アート引越し</a></p>
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		<title>By: w00kie</title>
		<link>http://w00kie.com/2009/05/28/moving-to-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-30937</link>
		<dc:creator>w00kie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my current place, there was 2 months deposit, 2 months key money and 1 month commission to the fudousan... (most of it was paid by my company, I would never have agreed to it otherwise)

as for the deposit not coming back, I am very much aware of it
we&#039;ll see what happens with my current place, but I&#039;m counting on getting at least 1.5 months back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my current place, there was 2 months deposit, 2 months key money and 1 month commission to the fudousan&#8230; (most of it was paid by my company, I would never have agreed to it otherwise)</p>
<p>as for the deposit not coming back, I am very much aware of it<br />
we&#8217;ll see what happens with my current place, but I&#8217;m counting on getting at least 1.5 months back</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://w00kie.com/2009/05/28/moving-to-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-30935</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably know, though, that the &quot;refundable&quot; in &quot;refundable deposit&quot; has a very variable meaning in Japan. Usually, it means you get whatever&#039;s left after &quot;cleaning&quot;/remodelling the place on your deposit when you leave. All depends on how voracious your fudosan/landlord is (from the price of that &quot;lock change&quot;, I&#039;d be slightly worried for you ;-)

On the other hand, and despite popular belief, &quot;key money&quot; is very rarely a gift to the owner, but an extra on the fudosan&#039;s commission. It was already on a decreasing slope over the past few years, I guess the economy and lack of business has sped up this trend. I am surprised you didn&#039;t have to pay a (separate) fudosan&#039;s commission, though...

Anyway, enjoy your new home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably know, though, that the &#8220;refundable&#8221; in &#8220;refundable deposit&#8221; has a very variable meaning in Japan. Usually, it means you get whatever&#8217;s left after &#8220;cleaning&#8221;/remodelling the place on your deposit when you leave. All depends on how voracious your fudosan/landlord is (from the price of that &#8220;lock change&#8221;, I&#8217;d be slightly worried for you ;-)</p>
<p>On the other hand, and despite popular belief, &#8220;key money&#8221; is very rarely a gift to the owner, but an extra on the fudosan&#8217;s commission. It was already on a decreasing slope over the past few years, I guess the economy and lack of business has sped up this trend. I am surprised you didn&#8217;t have to pay a (separate) fudosan&#8217;s commission, though&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, enjoy your new home!</p>
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		<title>By: w00kie</title>
		<link>http://w00kie.com/2009/05/28/moving-to-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-30926</link>
		<dc:creator>w00kie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m losing one room and 10m² for a much higher rent compared to my current place
but you gotta make sacrifices to live in the city</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m losing one room and 10m² for a much higher rent compared to my current place<br />
but you gotta make sacrifices to live in the city</p>
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		<title>By: bikoko</title>
		<link>http://w00kie.com/2009/05/28/moving-to-the-city/comment-page-1/#comment-30921</link>
		<dc:creator>bikoko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulation.

Upfront money is huge but you&#039;ll get most of your deposit back and you save yourself from the Key Money.

間取りis nice, welcome to the city!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulation.</p>
<p>Upfront money is huge but you&#8217;ll get most of your deposit back and you save yourself from the Key Money.</p>
<p>間取りis nice, welcome to the city!</p>
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